But I feel less vulnerable than when I was younger, so that’s better. It’s a matter of how you feel. ABBA's winning – if slightly uneven – seventh album Super Trouper is reissued on 45rpm vinyl for its birthday. Donald Trump symbolizes to me how everyone has it wrong and people don’t appreciate how much they have it wrong. The best aspects of humanity – we’ve really come a long way, we understand each other, we’ve managed to empathise and to feel like we know another human is just like us. STEREOGUM: Do you like that process or do you find it distracting from making your own music? But having a band and getting that together and really taking that seriously really helped. Ariel Pink: Well, we haven’t figured that one out yet. I don’t know how you would feel, if people said that you were a mansplaining men’s rights activist. After that, just tour and get your rocks off. As always the true provocateur, Ariel Pink remains as fired up as ever, discussing his love for conservative American politics & the rotting carcass that is … I don’t think there’s anybody that’s been more hated in their life, has more people hating him, than him. Then there’s Schnitzel Boogie which has a wonderful spoken interlude involving the ordering of a cheeseburger that also seems to convey some deeper human truth about how we rarely really listen to one another. Los Angeles pop weirdo Ariel Pink looks back at two early records freshly reissued by Mexican Summer and discusses his new Odditties Sodomies Vol. PINK: No, just joking. Ariel Rosenberg doesn't listen to his old albums much. You don’t hear anything with that now. STEREOGUM: That’s the beauty of blogging; it gives a voice to those that otherwise aren’t afforded an audience. But really that’s…the second you get a great review, it’s terrible because you get the feeling that now they have all the arsenal that they need to have in order to…that’s what they hold you to. You should do it once and never have to do it again. “I’m living on the other side of the deficit I used to create in. It’s music and there’s a face you stamp on top of music and that’s the lyrics. ARIEL PINK: No, I hate it. But I also have an excess of oxytocin in my mind. I’m going to look into it. It’s so much closer. I mean, I love that I am a harmless pipsqueak in the world and I’ve got goodwill, and I’m the one that is seen as a threat. There’s all these layers that are mediating the impression that you’re making on the world, and reading something that I said is one way of totally polluting what my message is, one way of bringing what the writer says, what he pays attention to, quoting me out of context and that kind of stuff, without any of my mannerisms. Ariel Pink’s Dedicated To Bobby Jameson is out on the 15th of September on Mexican Summer, 52 Insights publish one interview with one truly unique individual or collective each week. As a recording artist putting something out, someone’s going to go, okay that thing that you did that many years ago – that’s you. People are being manipulated to think one way about me, one way about anybody. We talk frankly with the singer-songwriter on his music, Trump and everything in between. What a question. 11/04 New York, NY @ Le Poisson Rouge He’s just exposing a weakness and blaming that on Trump just seems so weird man. Put it this way, Jon Bon Jovi said something really interesting on Larry King, and this was the last time that Larry King was on 60 Minutes, like 7 years ago or something. 11/16 San Diego, CA @ Belly Up [Brief pause.] Yeah, I think anyone that has a band name, like The Melvins, or any band without a frontman, is essentially indebted to the Beatles. "I felt it wasn't fair to include it. He keeps blinking and looks in considerable discomfort. Ariel Pink: We just found the Higgs. Get paid to travel. "I would consider it that," Rosenberg says. I just played bass on that song and just did some other things. STEREOGUM: He was more of a fly on the wall in that whole scene. Did working with other artists influence the way you approached this record? I’m not a prophet or anything like that. He’s cheering on Jameson’s downtrodden soul, and of course, his own. There’s a lot of distractions and confusing things. When I get some melodies, when I hear them, I have to find a way to…y’know, I don’t figure out a line on a guitar or anything like that. Ariel Rosenberg doesn't listen to his old albums much. I don’t know. Interscope came to me saying her last record didn’t do too well, she had her Avicii, she had all these things she wanted but there weren’t any songs there, so that’s why they were looking for writers. 2020 Bustle Digital Group. Do you think it’s tied into the way we’ve used and abused our planet in a way? "I do the Odditties as a sort of repository for those one-offs.". 'Nixon is the best president we ever had.' I have to keep the whole sound somehow in my mind. He could’ve gone to his grave without writing the blog and no one would know anything. That he would dedicate his latest album to another cult hero is no surprise. It’s the last thing I have to do — just settling on words without having to think about them and be so cerebral about everything. STEREOGUM: What about songs like “Death Patrol” and “Santa’s In The Closet,” which really subvert pop music and are reminiscent of back catalogue oddities like “Creepshow”? I mean, the music comes to me in a much more organic way than lyrics do, so in order to parallel that process you have to sort of trick your mind into saying things that you might not say in any other instance and be okay with it, not worry too much about the meaning, and not worry about the message so much as you create a message by degrees and in little places. No, that’s you. You just have to not be whatever’s happening in any given 15 minutes. Maybe that’s why we’ve had a run of bad luck in certain government policies. If Hilary was going to win I would have been like, right on. I’m a big doubter of the end of the world. No, it was from 2011. As long as we are a nation that comes together then that’s all I care about. You sort of want to get married for a little while but there’s this planned obsolescence. “No, I’ve felt acknowledged since I was 26,” Pink replied. STEREOGUM: All you have to do is say something controversial. I wanted to actually see what would happen if I decided to plant myself in Cure-land for like, all my life. The difference is now there’s a band and there’s all sorts of added considerations to keep in the mix. The face of it has to be less manufactured. Definitely my least favorite color. There’s so much of it; to shuffle through Pink’s prolific discography is to subject yourself to a kaleidoscope of his many personalities—and to lose track of your own. Overhead is down so producers are in right now, producers make the money because they can produce the sounds that are radio quality now. So if they were revolutionary for anything it was the era of bands. There’s nobody that I wouldn’t [support]; you could vote a four-year-old in and I would be all for it, but that’s because I’m a greedy capitalist. PINK: Man, that’s actually a really good question. Ariel Pink: Right, right, exactly. The song itself, there’s no lyric that says “Dedicated To Bobby Jameson.” There’s no reason why I should’ve named it that way; I came up with the album title before anything else, and I had to have a song that was named that. That’s fair enough. 11/10 San Antonio, TX @ Paper Tiger That’s all it was. That was then and this is now. A contrarian at heart he is someone who speaks his mind, regardless of the consequence or the political correctness we have all become so accustomed to. VEITCH: Do you think that people should live in outer space? "So normally, I'm not thinking about music if I don't have to.". I vote for the winner. •. 11/11 Dallas, TX @ Tree’s Ariel Pink: Maybe, I broke up with my girlfriend. Interesting. They use that as a safety net but it’s also a crutch. And to be actually living a record now…. They were the first backup band to actually be the band. But that’s my romantic notion. But underneath that mischievous shell is a sensitive and fragile artist. There are still kernels of it. He’s also a little dazed. Ariel Pink: I think so. Nobody looks at themselves as being a contributing part of that. What is the outcome of that? PINK: I guess around 3pm, something like that. I don’t think people are even going to care about The Beatles in five years.”. It seemed like every interview you did was more controversial than the last. I’m a loyal friend to a fault. It’s where you start. He succeeds because his aesthetic is singular and real. I mean, I appreciate [the press] not giving a f--- enough to really ask questions you’d expect them to ask about,” he said, underhandedly. When I say Satanic I really just mean pagan. VEITCH: Do you think the future will be futuristic? They’re the most exotic savages on the planet. He’s also a little dazed. Ariel Pink has a prediction about the future. He also ditched his old label, 4AD. All rights reserved. Finally we can all go to sleep now. Rock and roll is this seed from the people to the people, so the primitiveness of that was the beauty of it and that’s what we really offered to the rest of the world and it really lifted up a lot of people. “I’m just riding shotgun, that’s all.”. What’s keeping them there? 11/07 Atlanta, GA @ The Earl He was raised in Los Angeles in an area that is sometimes called Pico-Robertson and sometimes called Beverlywood. It's a plea for oneness as the US exercises its essential identity as a democracy on 3 November.
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